my seed-catalog shopping rules

January 6, 2009

6packRESTRAINT IS NOT MY STRONG SUIT, but when faced with a pile of seed catalogs and a DSL line linking me to thousands more, restraint must become my mantra. To insure vegetable seed-ordering success, not excess, I wrote a refresher course whose principles I swear I am trying to follow.  Om…restraint…om. (Or not.)

At first, I thought this would be a post for beginners, but realized even experts are over-indulgently inclined. For me, resisting buying everything requires an annual review of the basic mathematics of vegetable gardening. Now (not after 11 boxes of seeds arrive that you forgot you ordered) is the time to crunch your own numbers:

How many of A, B and C plants can fit into my Y square feet (and for what cost in seeds, supplies and labor)?

My more detailed self-help course in restraint, never more important than in an economic year like 2009, goes like this–a series of questions, really. (And yes, I talk to myself, the naughty Margaret trying to tell the practical one to just please let her have 25 kinds of tomatoes):

germination test1. What do you have left over that’s viable from last year? This may require a germination test (left) to answer properly.

2. How much room in a sunny spot where the soil drains well do you really have? Tell the truth.

Most vegetables crave sunshine (so do a majority of annual cutting flowers, if you, like me, lump zinnias and such into your vegetable-seed order). Even here, on a couple of acres, production growing competes unfavorably with my love for ornamentals; there’s never enough ideal space for all such annual crops that I believe I cannot live without. Another wrinkle: We are talking about space with water, as many food crops rely on regular, deep soaking for maximum yield.

3. What really rates that precious square-footage, based on these two factors:

(a) What do you eat most of/can’t live without?

(b) From that list of “big loves,” what is available locally for a reasonable price in season? (This second bit of thinking may help those of us who define “can’t live without” as “the entire botanical world.”)

On this “essentials” list, include items that you “put up” for year-round use, as I do all my tomato products, and various herb pestos. If you consume a lot of something, it may well be worth growing. Examples:

squash2As a vegetarian, I eat a lot of white potatoes, sweet potatoes and winter squash, heavyweight items which when purchased in the organic-produce section really add up. A mere $3 of ‘Delicata’ or ‘Blue Hubbard’ seed (or better yet, a packet of each that will last two years) yields a lot of squash if grown well (meaning protected from vine borers, with vigilance and Reemay).

I also grow all my chard and kale, basil and Italian flat-leaf parsley, because I eat a lot of each one and simply will not pay a couple of dollars per bunch for the herbs or double that for the greens.

What won’t I be growing, if I follow this thinking? I gave up eggplant, for instance, because I only ate them once or twice a month, and could more efficiently buy that eggplant or two when I had a taste for it than grow a crop. I use celery, sure, but maybe a bunch every month, and it’s always available, so why give it a place in my sun? Loving the occasional beet for salad doesn’t require a whole row devoted to them. Toss one in your market basket on occasion.

But certain specialty items are either too pricey or unavailable for purchase locally, meaning you must make room. If you make all your own salsa, perhaps you want to grow tomatillos. But maybe it would be cheaper and easier to simply purchase the one jalapeno pepper plant you’ll need at the nursery, or a pound of jalapenos at the produce market, rather than buy and start seeds. Grow what’s precious: Have you seen the price of organic baby greens or a single, juicy colorful heirloom tomato, even in high summer?

3. Now that you have a list of things you want to grow, the final challenge: Which are really worth growing yourself from seed?

beanseeds(a) Anything that grows better direct-seeded than started in cells and transplanted, and/or that I want to make repeat sowings of: I include beans, peas, squash and pumpkins, spinach and salad greens, cucumbers, root crops like carrots and beets, braising greens (chard and kale are my staples), dill, basil, melons, and corn (though I don’t grow the last two).

(b) With things that “do” from transplants, like tomatoes or peppers, think this way: How many plants of each will you need? For example, I have taken to buying one ‘Sweet 100’ and a ‘Sun Gold’ cherry plant at the nursery, or begging them from a friend who has extra, rather than ordering a packet of seeds for each and growing on a six-pack per variety. Who needs more than a cherry tomato plant or two?

tomatoseedlingsWith paste tomatoes, of which I grow 18 plants, my thinking is the opposite: no wasted seed or effort there. Start from scratch. Vegetable growing doesn‘t produce free food, just great food and safe food, food with a connection. Choose carefully for maximum reward.

Miscellany:

  • Once you’ve pared your list with this curmudgeonly thinking, do this: Add a couple of indulgences back in that don’t meet the requirements—I know I will.
  • Don’t grow something in bulk that you can’t cure and store properly, even if it’s a staple of your diet. Do the research in advance.
  • Collaborate: My friend Andrew and I often compare our orders, and swap partial packets or plants to get around wasted effort and cash.
  • Don’t overlook an investment in pest-prevention, such as floating row covers and hoops to support them. If handled carefully, these are reusable for many years, and save many a crop.
  • Consider trading up this year to seeds labeled as OG, or organically grown. This puts your dollars where they will do the most to support environmentally sound farming practices that deplete fewer resources, including the soil itself.

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matt January 6, 2009 at 7:34 am

I wish I could leave a comment but my mouth has dropped and my head is shaking silently with “oh yea! yes…. yes, ok, got it, yes…. yes… good point!”

I soooo needed this right now! Thank you!

margaret January 6, 2009 at 7:47 am

Hi, Matt…and remember, the most important rule: Do as I say, not as I do (because the naughty Margaret is agitating for some indulgences, and the good one is getting exhausted). :)

Cameron (Defining Your Home Garden) January 6, 2009 at 8:08 am

My son is home for a month or so and we’re talking about building a raised bed veggie garden. I have a few plants among flowers in the cottage garden, and space on the deck. Since we have to keep both deer and rabbit out– and we have covenants — any design has to be approved by our HOA/ARB.

Love seeds! Especially pretty packets of flower seeds.

Cameron

Andrea January 6, 2009 at 8:34 am

Great post. We grow the basics (tomatoes, peppers, herbs) and have been expanding a little at a time, always thinking of those vegs we like to eat but cost a lot (shallots, tomatillos, etc) and we’re adding more this year (big long list).

margaret January 6, 2009 at 8:47 am

Shallots is a GREAT example, thank you–especially now that there are seed-grown varieties. Thanks, Andrea.

Daphne January 6, 2009 at 9:05 am

I was pretty good last year. Just one seed packet that didn’t get opened and used. There was just no space for it. This year I’ve been pretty good. My hardest problem is paring down the varieties. I only need four heads of lettuce every two weeks. I can’t eat more. I know that. I now have four varieties to plant - two left over from last year and two new ones. I know it seems silly, but I’m trying to find a variety that can hold longer in the summer heat. My original list had four new varieties. I sadly crossed two of them off. Maybe next year.

Mrs.Flam January 6, 2009 at 9:14 am

My catalogs have started coming , my husband keeps asksing If I have a secret farm hidden somewhere.

LINDA from EACH LITTLE WORLD January 6, 2009 at 9:24 am

Margaret — I’ve rarely grown anything from seed and the sunniest spot in the garden is where the pond is situated so we can have water lilies. That said, thanks for this post. It helps me to think about herbs and some things I could do in pots that would be worth it.

margaret January 6, 2009 at 9:57 am

@Daphne: Hello, and welcome. I have to say I appreciate Johnny’s catalog evaluations of the heat-resistance of their salad greens (for instance, ‘Tropica’ and ‘Green Star’ among the large-leaf green types are meant to be exceptional against heat). I am the same re: limiting varieties, my worst indulgence being pumpkins and squash…which of course take up the most room as well. Uh-oh.

@Mrs. Flam. Welcome to A Way to Garden, and your husband’s comment will remain in my mind. Hilarious. Truly hilarious. Thanks.

Emily January 6, 2009 at 12:39 pm

Seed catalogues help me survive the long, dreary winter. Even though I can’t order the vast majority of varieties, I am cheered just by seeing pictures of the many types of pole beans, ornamental peppers, and heirloom tomatoes. Don’t know what I’d do without the catalogues and the few houseplants we have…this was a great post. I did find it interesting to compare our must-haves. We eat so many beets that we grew over 3 rows (can’t remember the yield right now), and it still wasn’t enough.

And to your rules, I would add “How much time do you want to spend weeding?” Last year, our garden was a bit to ambitious considering that we both work full time, commute, and garden organically (w/o any chemicals at all). As a result, the weeds got most of the moisture in some spots and we ended up with small onions. Anyway, thanks! I love your site, Margaret.

Erin January 6, 2009 at 1:24 pm

Great post. Gave me the little smack up-side-the-head that I needed.

I’m starting a deck garden as an experiment in urban agriculture. And since I haven’t gardened since I left my parents farm, I’m sure I’ll be nosing around for more sage advice.
Thanks!

margaret January 6, 2009 at 1:27 pm

Welcome, Emily and Erin. Thanks to both of you for starting the year with us.

Good idea, Emily, to add that extra rule. I mulch my vegetables heavily with oat straw to try to keep the weeds down, but…

Thanks, Erin, for taking a slap-in-the-head with a smile. :) Hope to see you soon again.

Jen January 6, 2009 at 1:54 pm

This is probably a bit off topic but I noticed your reference in regard to squash to Reemay and vigilance. I am about to give up on squash due to massive infestations of squash vine borer in my garden for the past two years. Can I hope for an upcoming post on how to combat these damn things? I don’t remember this and did a search just now, but my apologies if I missed it.

Johanna January 6, 2009 at 2:13 pm

It’s nice to find so many kindred spirits! My blood pressure rises every time I open my mailbox and find another seed catalog — everything else has to wait while I take that first trembling flip through the pages to see what’s new!

Aren’t we all big planners? I’ve been saving the yellow plastic kitty litter containers to cut off the bottoms and plant those generous herbs that like to offer you so much more of themselves than you need. I think I can keep them more under control this way. Of course I have about 20 boxes saved already!

And as for fantasies, after a Saturday afternoon spent perusing all the catalogs, I had layed out an entire new perennial flower bed on the south side of my house, selected the climbing roses and hydrangeas and everything else that I would look out on, only to remember that I meant to have a deck built there this summer! I guess I’ll hold the plan and plant around the deck next year!

–Johanna

margaret January 6, 2009 at 2:14 pm

Welcome, Jen. I lost most of my squash crops last year, and so it is on my mind, too. I am doing some homework to prepare a post in time for spring planting, but meantime one of the things I was interested to read last summer when my vines perished was this article on the website of the Gardens Alive catalog folks. I also am a big believer in planting two sowings of things so that the couple of weeks’ difference sometimes makes all the difference, and one crop or another isn’t in synch with the pest’s developmental stages so it escapes harm. Hope to see you again.

Plangarden January 6, 2009 at 2:17 pm

My wife added a rule where I am not allowed to bring in a new seed catalog from the mailbox until I get rid of last years edition.
This doesn’t help in reducing orders, just keeps the number of catalogs down.
My seed orders are still bigger than my garden. (At least I can come clean and admit I have a problem.)

margaret January 6, 2009 at 2:41 pm

Welcome, Planagarden, to the virtual 12-step meeting room for seed-catalog abusers, and thanks for working the first step without having to be prodded (”We admitted we were powerless over…”). I tossed my old editions too, which made me feel virtuous. Today, since I’d read my own story over a few times, I allowed myself to actually place my orders, and I think I behaved pretty well. Hope to see you here again soon.

Garden Guy Kenn January 6, 2009 at 3:28 pm

I was marking all the wonderful things I wanted to order just the other day and now this post… just when I thought it was safe to be excessive you have to go and be all common sense like. Where’s the naughty Margaret when I need her most!?! I will now do the right thing and rethink it all. (said while pouting)

n. January 6, 2009 at 7:27 pm

I ordered all my seeds (more than I can use…) so I’m no longer allowed to look at seed catalogs, swap sites, websites, etc etc! I plan on offering some of my seeds on Freecycle since I have no gardening friends yet. I’ve also contemplating selling extra seedlings on Craigslist instead of killing them when more than I can use make it from seed to seedling.

This is my second year with all heritage varities, some are organic most aren’t but I’m happy choosing heritage over hybrids. Plus I love the crazy names :)

chris January 7, 2009 at 12:23 pm

i am not going to grow corn this year because i can buy excellent just picked corn at the local farmside stand and they manage to produce it for a longer window than i could…plus, corn takes up alot of sunspace requiring it to be planted on the north side of my garden, and i don’t like planting the same veggie in the same place year after year, so this year i will simply omit it and see how it goes…not growing corn seems a little bit strange, but i won’t miss all the thinning

margaret January 7, 2009 at 5:29 pm

Yes, that’s one that Susan (who helps me in the garden a couple of times each week) and I talk about a lot all these years: She would not be without fresh rows of corn, and I have never grown it myself. I am with you, Chris, on this one; Susan swears even an hour or two post-picking is different.

Today I thought of another example of my thinking: cucumbers. Except for at pickling time, when I want a large crop of smallish cukes, I really only want a single slicing cucumber maybe once a week or less frequently. I certainly won’t grow a big vining variety for just one cuke a week. At most, one bush-habit plant. Or probably none, just the picklers, and I’ll buy an occasional salad type.

Debbie January 7, 2009 at 6:50 pm

I don’t have much sunny space at all, and a small deer herd wanders through the yard several times a day, so I really have to pick and choose what I can fit in and protect. The must for me are zinnias! I do buy seeds for two reasons- one is that the annual plants in the nurseries can be pretty sad and secondly & the main reason is selection! I have found the past few years that the garden centers will have flats of one color or just have the miniature variety. I love to plant the seeds and then wait anxiously to see what colors I have. Summer to me is a large vase of wildly colored zinnias! (And tomatoes and cukes and corn and basil…..) ;-D

chris January 7, 2009 at 6:56 pm

short followup on boom and busts of the nonfinancial variety…perhaps some readers are like me and hang their hats in the metro NYC region and “upstate”, whether the berkshires, hudson valley or whatever…just a thought on playing both sides now, by which i mean by all means go to the local farmstand to buy plenty good veggies from your neighborhood commercial gardener when you need to supplement your garden and do some filling in for your salad or recipe, but don’t forget that when your crop comes in all at once, it’s good to lay a little on to the foodbank people…see http://www.foodbanknyc.org/ for NYCers…westsiders please go to the westside campaign against hunger on 86th.

sally calligan January 7, 2009 at 7:26 pm

This is a useful post. I live in the Seattle area and there are fewer degree days here. We grow lettuce well. Last year I had a vegetable container garden, which I enjoyed a lot. We are a two person family so we don’t need much, but it is hard to work my growing plan. Somethings I end up planting just because I like planting them, like potatoes.

Each year my zinneas come out totally different. Feast or famine.

Bobster January 7, 2009 at 9:16 pm

Margaret, your timing is perfect.
First catalog arrived today!

margaret January 7, 2009 at 9:54 pm

@Debbie: I like to buy seeds in single-color strains for zinnias, like the Benary’s Giants: I just get the shades I want.

@Chris: Exactly. Thank you for the good advocacy and good link. Web searches and phone calls will locate such worthy places all over the country. Great addition to the conversation.

@Sally: Welcome. The short season of Seattle is deceptive–we Northeast types think you are so “warm” but in fact you don’t get the heat many vegetables want, so things like Russian tomatoes (from Territorial Seed among others) and such do better for you than some varieties our hot summers will ripen and yours won’t. Please visit with us soon again.

Anna January 8, 2009 at 7:04 am

I was doing fine resisting until you slipped in that link to jonny’s seeds. Shoot!

Brody&CalsDaddy January 8, 2009 at 9:54 am

Margaret -

I am so excited! I am so very excited! And you know how I get when excitement hits my enthusiasm. Somethings gonna happen, baby! This year, I have decided to garden at my wife’s family farm high in the rural Middle Tennessee mountains. Amazing soil. Great well water. I cannot wait to get started sowing seeds. Using my graph paper for planning/layout purposes. Getting my hands dirty and best of all TIME ALONE in the garden!

So, c’mon spring. I am ready. And as for restraint - I am throwing caution to the wind and ready to rock and roll!

Now where is that Seeds of Change catalog and my Visa card?

margaret January 8, 2009 at 10:16 am

Nice to see you Brody&CalsDaddy. Just to fill everyone in: this is one of the most devoted listeners to the program I used to do on Sirius Satellite Radio talking…and when he first reached out to me and co-host Andrew Beckman a few years back, he had never gardened. Now look what’s happened: He’s taking on a whole farm! I love being part of the back story on this one. Onward!

Jean S January 8, 2009 at 1:32 pm

I’m another NW grower and swear by my Territorial Seed catalog. I have many pages marked, and am trying to think through what’s reasonable and rational….with the reminder that I love to give vegetables away to friends and neighbors, and they love to receive them. Also, at our community garden, we have a “swap box” (unfortunately, it’s usually clogged with giant zucchini).

Kate Frank January 8, 2009 at 1:40 pm

This is an interesting idea… restraint. I’ll consider it. ;)

margaret January 8, 2009 at 3:02 pm

Welcome, Kate. Consider as in maybe, perhaps, probably not, or “Is that Margaret Roach CRAZY?!” Nice to see you here. I controlled myself sort of this week while ordering, and hope I can suppress too many urges these next dark weeks of winter. See you soon again.

Bobster January 8, 2009 at 11:41 pm

Um, just a thought. But both seeds and seed catalogs should be covered by insurance plans as mental health programs for gardeners.

kerry January 9, 2009 at 5:44 pm

I’m experiencing my annual plant panic. I am overwhelmed with all the choices and decisions and therefore sit like a deer (with a credit card) in the headlights.

margaret January 9, 2009 at 6:36 pm

Well, Kerry, you caused me to become hysterical. Thanks for that. And I had only barely recovered from Bobster’s suggestion that we send our invoices for seeds in to our insurance providers as mental-health expenditures. Obviously this whole gang here is a case of peas-in-pod (and by the way, anybody know which shelling pea varieties give the most medium-to-large pea per pod)?

Sharon January 9, 2009 at 10:26 pm

Count me in as one of your peas, Margaret.

My solution to the problem: organize all your seed packets in neatly labled expanding (and I do mean expanding) folders by general category (early spring, late spring, etc.) and then pretend you’ve conquered your addition. aaah, there’s nothing like the illusion of control.

Gin January 10, 2009 at 9:09 am

Thanks for offering your self-help course in restraint. That’s exactly what I need now that I circled and highlighted way more seeds that I need to plant in my garden.

Last year was my first on 5 acres after living all my life as a city girl, and I didn’t even plant all of the 20 x 20 garden that was tilled. Instead I concentrated on building flower borders around the property around the house. This year I intend to plant that as a cutting garden and move the veggies to another spot where I discovered the previous owners had tended a very productive garden.

Now as I pray for control, the White Flower Farm catalog arrived yesterday. As you said, Om…restraint…om. (Or not.)

margaret January 10, 2009 at 12:05 pm

Welcome, Gin. It sounds like you have your garden very well-planned. I had a little gasp when the Plant Delights catalog from Tony Avent, a favorite for me, arrived after I had survived the seed-ordering phase pretty well, so I hear you. Come again soon.

Rick from Cherty Rock Farmer January 10, 2009 at 11:50 pm

Well done again Margaret.
While you was writing your entry, I too was working on my own post about clipping up seed catalogs, dreaming during the cold winter. I put a link back here to this article on my blog, so my three faithful readers should show up in the next day or two! Have a great one.

margaret January 11, 2009 at 7:52 am

Thanks, Rick…and I will keep an eye out for the minion. :) I am writing a confessional next, I think: What I ordered. Dare I tell?

millie rossman kidd January 11, 2009 at 8:15 am

Do tell!

Last year was out first attempt at a veg garden and this year we’re hoping to try our hand at seed starts and get a jump on things.

Excellent advice here and in the comments, thank you.

margaret January 11, 2009 at 8:25 am

You know where to find me here and @margaretroach on Twitter if you need any specific counsel, Millie…and all of you. Frankly, I think the commenters sometimes give the best advice of all on A Way to Garden. I need to post about seed-starting rigs…gave mine to my sister, Marion, and need to build another.

jayedee January 12, 2009 at 7:02 pm

restraint? oh yes, absolutely.

signed the tomato enabler
(with 60+ varieties of tomato seed this year)

margaret January 12, 2009 at 8:20 pm

Dear Tomato Enabler: Please give us real feedback about which ones taste the best, and spare us overdoing things on that score at least. Sincerely, Pumpkinaholic.

Kathy from Cold Climate Gardening January 13, 2009 at 10:21 pm

We grew way more sweet corn than we could eat fresh, don’t like it canned, and didn’t have much room in the freezer for it. So we made a lot of neighbors happy, but corn takes up a lot of real estate that could have been used for something else, like more basil! You can be sure we won’t be planting that much corn this year.

Kylee from Our Little Acre January 14, 2009 at 2:49 pm

Margaret, this is great advice. I found myself shaking my head in agreement, but my heart was still deep in the seed catalogs. Of course, I’m also suffering from the January Jitters at the moment!

I’ll try to be good though. ;-)

margaret January 14, 2009 at 3:35 pm

Welcome, Kylee. Hope you read Part 2, the confessional, about what I actually ordered. I am trying to control myself, at least a little. Do come again, and I am headed over to visit you now…

Jennifer January 21, 2009 at 7:28 pm

Looking at all the seed catalogues reminds me of what didn’t come up last year. Something odd happened - seeds from one company only had about a 30% germination rate. Is this something we should keep more accurate records about? The first times it happened 10 years ago, I thought it was just us - new to gardening nitwits that we were, but now I’m not as sure.

Mary January 30, 2009 at 9:15 am

Hello Margaret-My first actual sit down and read. Anyway, I was just thinking about what to put in our 12×12 plot here in Porltand and you have helped organize my thinking. Definately not so much eggplant.

margaret January 30, 2009 at 9:44 am

Welcome, Mary. Indeed, not so much eggplant. I never regret the space I give my tomatoes (resulting in a year of sauce and soup base) but more than one eggplant plant was silly for my one-person household. (The cat loathes eggplant.) I will be wanting to hear what you grow and how it goes…12 by 12 can produce a surprising amount of food, if you pick varieties that are compact but prolific.

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